Join entrepreneur, educator, and proud Indonesian, Gita Wirjawan in exploring the ways forward for our society through stories and experiences by thought leaders, trailblazers, and opinion-makers from Indonesia and the region.

Endgame with Gita Wirjawan

Buku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. Dapatkan di sini: https://books.endgame.idSudah baca? Tinggalkan review-mu di sini: what-it-takes------------------Rahayu Saraswati Djojohadikusumo membahas latar belakang keluarga, lika-liku perjalanan pendidikan, hingga aktivisme kepemimpinan perempuan, demokrasi, dan industri kreatif. Topik selengkapnya:0:00:00 - Intro0:02:23 - Jatuh cinta dengan seni peran sejak kecil0:14:41 - Kesehatan mental0:32:14 - Dua sisi latar belakang keluarga0:40:10 - Demokrasi dan Pendidikan1:06:57 - Kepemimpinan perempuan1:18:23 - 4 cara kelola talenta terbaik1:26:46 - Kemampuan bercerita, soft power, IP1:37:42 - Spiritualitas dalam menjaga kesehatan mental1:48:46 - Menemukan purpose tidaklah instan1:55:45 - Meritokrasi2:09:32 - AI#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #SaraswatiDjojohadikusumo------------------Special thanks to our ‘Future Narrators’ channel members:Mariko Yoshihara, Yemotto IBRAHIM, hobi kluyuran, Fajar Prasetyo, Dyah Firgiani, Arie Gunardi, Yayi Trisnawati D, Teddy Chow, Wwertyssnb, Widi Aphrian, hndraable, hendro trihatmojo, Muhammad Taufik Evendi, QunÔºáan Syukrilah, Ariyo Arinsa Putra, Reda Bellarbi, Muhammad Ismail Mubarak, KATE WOLSKA, Itje Chodidjah, Geralt Fajar Bukan, Jack Duan, Lucy March, Mr Gman, Irawan Purwono, Agnes Pranindita, nazaruddin nasir, 747sgw, Patricia S, Gusko Adnyana, Jerry Budiman, Mawan Darmawan, diah anggraini, Adrian Baskoro, Bambang Haryanto, Ezwan Zakaria, Naufal M, Kianti Darusman, Revolution R, liza dewi, Joanna felicia, Taswin Munier, M Firaldi Akbar Zulkarnain, Seno wibowo, Hendry Ahen, Ferdy Reza, Haju Ara Podcast, Ayu Arman, Flores Exotic Tours, Niki S, Anita Amalia, Dewi Risnawati, birgietta katherine, Derry Harnanda, Ridwan Sakidja, Rita Sahara, Sanityas Prawatyani, erna girirachman, Ronny Wijaya, Alvin Rivaldi, Stella sinaga, Kawal Jakarta, Freddy Wijaya, Bambang Made, fsoenardi, ULFA, Daniel Tagu Dedo, Yoggi Dinata, Omabudi Herawan, Dina Siswa, rita triani, Beatrice Cynthia Walter, Dendy Hernama, sentraikanlaut sentraikanlaut, Nur Aini, Sri Rahayu Fitriani, Ainia Putri Ayu Kusuma, faiza kamalia, agung Murdifi, Liely Noor Qadarwati, agita sari, Boodguns, Anang Rikza Masyhadi OFFICIAL, Didik Muktiyanto, muksin muksin, Rudi Gmail Nuriadi, Vindow Harum, irawan karseno, gaby diovani, abson Ly26, jaka susila, Reinhard Santoso, tjia martin, Roni Pebrianto, Roberto Sontani, achmad subarkah, Omo Abdul Madjid, Uswatun Khasanah, alex ondang, Arya Family, muzakir tombolotutu, Timmy Kids, only1su, Wee Khien Tan, Dawani Magdalena, Ricko Ciady, theresia margriet, Tri Laylaa Shaiza, Retno Sri, Buyung Aji Saputro, Fredrik Ong, Gricelle Sachi Sihombing, Erwin Loe, Dhanie Soeharto

Saraswati Djojohadikusumo: Setiap Kita Punya Peran

Ketika masalah muncul ke permukaan, adalah pilihan yang mudah untuk menyalahkan orang lain. Mudah pula untuk menunjuk semua pihak sebagai sumber problema, kecuali duduk diam dan benar-benar becermin ke dalam diri dengan jernih dan jujur.Apa sumber masalahnya? Bagaimana itu bisa terjadi? Apa yang bisa dilakukan agar ke depan lebih baik?Tiga pertanyaan sederhana namun sukar muncul dari mereka yang inkompeten dan/atau licik.Dalam episode ini, Gita Wirjawan duduk bersama Ferry Latuhihin untuk mengupas gejala, akar, hingga solusi tantangan ekonomi nasional. Analisis ekonomi Ferry dan Gita mengajak kita untuk stop berpikir biner—lanjutkan atau stop suatu program; institusi ini benar atau salah; aktor ekonomi ini jahat atau baik. Akan tetapi, mari mulai untuk pahami semuanya dalam konteks.Jangan salahkan institusi moneter karena problemnya ada di fiskal. Program populis silakan dijalankan selama itu mendongkrak produktivitas, bukan pembakaran duit. Jangan musuhi bisnis, karena bisnis yang sejatinya ciptakan lapangan pekerjaan bagi masyarakat.Topik selengkapnya:0:00:00 - Intro0:01:46 - Tertarik filsafat, jadi ‘dukun’0:03:25 - Nyemplung ke dunia ekonomi0:06:57 - Evolusi ekonomi Indonesia0:09:02 - Akar gejolak ekonomi0:13:43 - Inkonsistensi atau inkompetensi?0:17:33 - Peran negara dalam ekonomi0:25:38 - Isu struktural fiskal0:33:25 - Program Populisme0:39:10 - PR besar kita: bangun institusi0:46:52 - Pendidikan juga soal budaya0:51:45 - Kapitalisasi alam tidak bisa dihindarkan0:56:20 - Struktur kekuasaan: Uang di atas politik?1:05:28 - Empat cara kelola talenta bangsa1:12:33 - Mindset terdidik1:17:29 - Ikhtiar menuju perubahan1:22:20 - BBM & Mati Lampu1:26:07 - Skenario terburuk#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #FerryLatuhihin------------------Episode lain yang mungkin Anda sukai:Chatib Basri: Kelas Menengah Digempur Ketidakpastian
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Ferry Latuhihin: Batas Intervensi Pemerintah dalam Ekonomi 

The world order is changing. The West is no longer the undisputed center of global power. Europe is gradually experiencing a decline in influence. Developing nations are emerging as formidable competitors. Economic elites are increasingly locked in battles with one another. Meanwhile, public awareness is rising in a wave unlike anything seen before.These are the arguments put forward by Alex Krainer, market analyst and founder of Krainer Analytics, in his conversation with Gita Wirjawan. In this episode, Krainer invites us to rethink the long-term trajectory of our world and reflect on what truly matters about our shared humanity in an era of war: preserving our freedom, or becoming servants of the system.Full topics:0:00:00 - Intro0:01:30 - Grew up with history, power, and politics0:05:50- How war intellectually shaped Alex Krainer0:11:40 - "The European Union is going to disintegrate"0:20:26 - Civil war: "The clash is inevitable"0:28:30 - Ukraine-Russia hostility “will never end”?0:34:45 - Neocolonialism: “You’re conquering a country through debt."0:39:35 - Oil price could worsen0:43:55 - Eschatological look of the Middle East conflict0:50:53 - Iran: “This isn’t Trump’s war”0:53:45 - We can’t avoid Thucydides Trap1:00:40 - Oligarchy, “this is by design”1:08:30 - Why we can beat plutocracy#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #AlexKrainer------------------You may also like these episodes:   • We’re Not in World War III Yet, Realist Jo...      • Francis Fukuyama: Is Western Civilization ...      • Myth on Capitalism and Sex Industry - Kimb...  ------------------Special thanks to our “future narrators” channel members:Mariko Yoshihara, Yemotto IBRAHIM, hobi kluyuran, Fajar Prasetyo, Dyah Firgiani, Arie Gunardi, Yayi Trisnawati D, Teddy Chow, Wwertyssnb, Widi Aphrian, Faizal …Mariko Yoshihara, Yemotto IBRAHIM, hobi kluyuran, Fajar Prasetyo, Dyah Firgiani, Arie Gunardi, Yayi Trisnawati D, Teddy Chow, Wwertyssnb, Widi Aphrian, Faizal Tajuli, hndraable, hendro trihatmojo, Muhammad Taufik Evendi, Qun＇an Syukrilah, Charles Andrew Tang, Ariyo Arinsa Putra, Reda Bellarbi, Jaz Simbolon, Muhammad Ismail Mubarak, KATE WOLSKA, rrtrent892, Itje Chodidjah, Geralt Fajar Bukan, Jack Duan, Elmi CK Ong, Lucy March, Anggun Noventina, Irawan Purwono, Krishna Putra, Agnes Pranindita, nazaruddin nasir, 747sgw, Patricia S, Gusko Adnyana, Jerry Budiman, Mawan Darmawan, diah anggraini, Adrian Baskoro, Bambang Haryanto, Ezwan Zakaria, Irene Kurniati, Naufal M, Kianti Darusman, Revolution R, liza dewi, Joanna felicia, Susanto Uno, Taswin Munier, M Firaldi Akbar Zulkarnain, Seno wibowo, Hendry Ahen, Ilham R, Ferdy Reza, Ayu Arman, Haju Ara Podcast, Flores Exotic Tours, Niki S, Anita Amalia, Dewi Risnawati, birgietta katherine, Derry Harnanda, Ridwan Sakidja, Rita Sahara

Alex Krainer: When “the Few” Run the World, “the Many” Should Rise

The web of capitalism operates everywhere, in every transaction, every policy, every "done deal" that never sees the light. In the midst of it all, we are slowly losing something far greater: the meaning of being human.Kimberly Kay Hoang, professor of sociology at the University of Chicago, joins Endgame to uncover what has long remained hidden, from spiderweb capitalism to a sex industry far more complex than we assume, and to the question we rarely dare to ask plainly: what have we already sacrificed in the name of progress?#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #KimberlyHoang---------------Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon:https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here:www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes---------------Related Endgame episodes:     • How AI-Enabled Organized Crimes & Systemic...      • Jiang Xueqin: Our True Wealth Is Our Consc...      • Di Mana Titik Tengah Kekuasaan dan Kebebas...

 Kimberly Hoang: Myth on Capitalism and Sex Industry #269

Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon:https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here:www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------------------------------------------------Is democracy the only path, or simply just a method?Many of us believe that democracy is the only path—if not the best path—to nation-building. Yet, drawing on his expertise in international relations and his experience as an English interpreter for senior Chinese leaders (including Deng Xiaoping), Dr. Zhang Weiwei tells a very different story from his homeland, a story that stands in sharp contrast to the historical experience of Western civilization: China.China's historical experience suggests that the large-scale development of a nation can be achieved while remaining deeply rooted in its own cultural spirit. From his account of how Deng Xiaoping set China on a path of transformation through a process of self-correction, to his critique of political paradigms that divide the world into the binary categories of "democracy" and "autocracy," Zhang invites us to consider the successes of alternative models of political and developmental order.There are parts of the world that have progressed, prospered, and come to terms with their own troubled histories without democracy serving as their vessel.Find out more about The China Academy:https://thechinaacademy.org/‪@thinkersforum4149‬

Zhang Weiwei: “Leaders Must Deliver, Meet Demands of the People” 

AI today is powered by massive models, massive energy, and massive capital concentration. But what if this trajectory is essentially unsustainable? And what if the Global South could redefine the future of AI?Randy Goebel, an AI scientist and advocate of open science, explores the sustainability crisis behind large language models and the costly cycles that define AI’s history. He also emphasizes that for Southeast Asia and the Global South, the future of AI depends not on hardware, but on building and sustaining intellectual capital.


----------------------About the Guest: Randy Goebel is a computer scientist and professor of computing science in the Department of Computing Science, University of Alberta, Canada. He's known for his work in artificial intelligence (AI), machine learning, logic-based reasoning, and explainable AI (XAI). Goebel also helped found the Alberta Machine Intelligence Institute (AMII) and has been deeply involved in AI research and teaching.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #RandyGoebel------------------------
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Randy Goebel: Why the Global South Can Still Lead on AI

Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW: https://books.endgame.id/ Also available on Amazon: https://sgpp.me/amazon/ Leave your review here: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes---------------Democracy holds elections. But what makes them meaningful? In an era of polarization, algorithmic amplification, elite capture, and institutional distrust, Gita Wirjawan conversation with Tom Ginsburg asks a deeper question: what sustains constitutional democracy, and what erodes it from within?From Southeast Asia’s dramatic transformation since the 1980s to the rise of authoritarianism at home, this episode weaves these threads together to examine the institutional architecture that makes freedom possible. It explores not only how democracies erode, but also what the best model of governance truly looks like in practice, and the constitutional framework required to sustain it over time.About the guest:Tom Ginsburg is a prominent American legal scholar specializing in comparative constitutional law and international law. He is a professor at the University of Chicago Law School, where he holds an endowed chair. He is widely known for his work on constitutional design, judicial politics, and the role of law in authoritarian regimes.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #TomGinsburg---Episode you might like:https://youtu.be/7VAU6ejU3cc?si=sgdCyi4t9mfqOcxyhttps://youtu.be/PCYpeJYu9hY?si=xzB-5zj0P6ryQr0Vhttps://youtu.be/QZ1vMos7fck?si=C-OTKZ2htha_9dfs

Tom Ginsburg: Why Constitutional Monarchy Might Be the Best Form of Government 

Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon:https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here:www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes---------------Power shapes history, but character shapes the future. Democracies do not collapse in a single dramatic moment; they erode quietly through short-term thinking and the loss of moral clarity.General Wesley Clark, former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, sat down with Gita Wirjawan to reflect on peace, military involvement in global security, and America’s changing identity in a multipolar world.The discussion spans the Middle East, Russia–Ukraine, nuclear risks, and civilian casualties, highlighting the balance between strength and restraint, realism and hope.Full topics:0:00:00 - Intro0:02:09 - Why joined the military0:16:24 - Spirituality & religiosity0:18:26 - History of the birth of America0:29:07 - What is peace?0:37:55 - The US in a multipolar world0:50:56 - Significance: The quest of the 21st century?0:57:29 - Nuclear proliferation1:08:10 - Middle East1:12:25 - A realist look at Ukraine1:14:40 - NATO1:19:20 - Why invest in Southeast Asia#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #WesleyClark------------------About the guest:Wesley Clark is a four-star U.S. Army general who devoted 34 years of service under eight presidents, spanning from the Cold War to the Balkans. He served as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, leading NATO forces during a defining post–Cold War period. His career reflects decades of experience at the intersection of military strategy, political leadership, and the shaping of modern American power.About the host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.------------------You may also like:https://youtu.be/PCYpeJYu9hY?si=mrMhRwUXgvti4-r7https://youtu.be/oT4OcBYEZac?si=b6YgpSOZwkwewcTjhttps://youtu.be/vZ7ocdh_rsk?si=mJKfaZEmXnVmHuYX------------------

Wesley Clark: Peace as a Paradoxical Ideal

Buku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. 


Dapatkan di sini:https://books.endgame.id/


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Ekonomi Indonesia tumbuh 5%, tapi kelas menengah justru makin terjepit di tengah. Mereka dianggap terlalu kaya untuk dapat subsidi, namun terlalu kecil untuk dianggap sejahtera.Apa sebenarnya prioritas ekonomi kita?Pahami penjelasan Bhima Yudhistira, seorang ekonom dan Direktur Eksekutif CELIOS, dalam pembicaraannya dengan Gita Wirjawan.


Tentang Bintang Tamu:
Bhima Yudhistira adalah ekonom Indonesia yang menjabat sebagai Direktur Eksekutif Center of Economic and Law Studies (Celios). Ia kerap menjadi narasumber di berbagai media nasional untuk membahas kebijakan fiskal, utang negara, investasi, hilirisasi industri, hingga dampak kebijakan publik terhadap kelas menengah dan UMKM.


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Bhima Yudhistira: Ekonomi Tumbuh, Belum Tentu Dinikmati Semua

Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW:https://books.endgame.id/Also available on Amazon:https://sgpp.me/amazon/Leave your review here:www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------Francis Fukuyama argues that Western civilization is waning, and America can no longer agree on what it's even defending.In this episode, Professor Fukuyama discusses the deepening crisis within the liberal international order, as well as the symptoms and impact of America’s long-term decline.------------------About the Guest:Francis Fukuyama is a senior fellow at Stanford University's Freeman Spogli Institute and one of the most influential political theorists of the past three decades. Best known for “The End of History and the Last Man”, his work spans liberal democracy, political order, and institutional decay.About the host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.------------------